Saturday, June 26, 2010

HANK SKINNER: GAMSO FOR THE DEFENCE SAYS NEVER LIFT YOUR GUARD WHEN IT COMES TO DNA - NO MATTER HOW OVERWHELMING THE EVIDENCE SEEMS.


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"Next time you're on a bus or a plane or a train or in a restaurant or movie theater or anywhere where there are a bunch of people, look around.
You never know when your not-twin, the one whose DNA profile is the same as yours, might be in the crowd. Despite the odds of 1 in 6.17 quadrillion. Hell, it might be one of the jurors."

GAMSO FOR THE DEFENCE;

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"Jeff Gamso tells us: 6.17 quadrillion to 1. He also tells us why they don't mean what they say. Despite the numbers crunching, the certainty of experts and the desire for judges and juries to have the hard decisions lifted off their shoulders by the experts who assure them that there is no way, none, that the defendant isn't the bad guy, Jeff also explains why criminal defense lawyers need to go old school and listen to our clients.

SCOTT H. GREENFIELD: SIMPLE JUSTICE: A NEW YORK CRIMINAL DEFENCE BLOG;

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BACKGROUND: The editor of the Texas Tribune says in a note that "Hank Skinner is set to be executed for a 1993 murder he's always maintained he didn't commit. He wants the state to test whether his DNA matches evidence found at the crime scene, but prosecutors say the time to contest his conviction has come and gone......We told the story of the murders and his conviction and sentencing in the first part of this story." Reporter Brandi Grissom, author of the Tribune series on Hank Skinner, writes: "I interviewed Henry "Hank" Watkins Skinner, 47, at the Polunsky Unit of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice — death row — on January 20, 2010. Skinner was convicted in 1995 of murdering his girlfriends and her two sons; the state has scheduled his execution for February 24. Skinner has always maintained that he's innocent and for 15 years has asked the state to release DNA evidence that he says will prove he was not the killer."

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"If you do felony criminal law (from either side of the aisle) and I tell you the number is 6.17 quadrillion, you probably assume that I'm talking about DNA," Jeff Gamso's post, published on June 10, 2010, under the heading "testing the odds, begins.

"The number will reflect just how unlikely it is that the DNA in the whatever left at the scene could have come from anyone other than the defendant.* There are four things you need to know about that number," the post continues.

"1. It's from a profile. That is, they didn't sequence the billions or whatever bits of stuff make up the DNA. They sample and test particular spots on the DNA sequence. That results in a profile. And a profile is not a complete person.

2. It's meaningful only if the sample wasn't contaminated, the testing was done right, the demographic base was properly established and the test results properly measured against that demographic base.

3. None of those things is as simple and free from mistake as the people in the lab coats would like you to believe. Test results, for instance, may include bits of noise (think static on your car radio), but exactly what's noise and what's real is often subject to varied interpretation, which can lead to dramatically different results.

4. While it's true that there aren't anywhere near 6.17 quadrillion people in the world, that doesn't mean that there can't be another person whose DNA profile is the same. Really unlikely? Sure. Impossible? No. Goes back to the idea that the number comes from a profile.

I'm not saying that when the guy in the lab coat is probably wrong when he says the tests were run and there's just a 1 in 6.17 quadrillion chance that it's not from your guy. He's probably right. And when the prosecutor tells the jury that they should think about those odds and the fact that there are just about 7 (or is it 8 now) billion people in the world and conclude that the defendant did it, she's likely to be not just persuasive but frankly correct.

Of course, DNA doesn't just convict. It also exonerates. There have now been over 250 people in this country freed after DNA testing revealed that they didn't commit the offenses of which they were convicted. The Supreme Court, though, says that there's no constitutional right to post-conviction DNA testing. And prosecutors routinely resist the effort. (See here, for instance.)

The highest profile case out there right now is Hank Skinner's. He's on death row, been trying for some years to get sophisticated testing done. The state (Texas, of course) did some, and when it didn't implicate him, decided not to do any more. Even though it could be done at no cost to the state. Skinner's in the Supreme Court now (decision next year) on the question of what procedural avenue he has to pursue in order to try and get testing.

But if prosecutors often not always, maybe not most of the time (it's hard to tell), but often fight efforts at post-conviction DNA testing (even though it sometimes proves they had the right guy), defense counsel aren't always enthusiastic about it pre-trial. Radley Balko of The Agitator, this time writing at Slate.com and using Skinner's case as paradigm, says just cut to the chase and test everything.

There are times when neither the prosecution nor the defense is particularly interested in discovering the truth. That's where policy makers need to step in. In cases like Skinner's, they should establish a common-sense rule: When there is biological evidence at the crime scene, all of that evidence should be sent for DNA testing. No exceptions.
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In District Attorney's Office for the 3rd Judicial District v. Osborne, last year's case, Justice Alito argued in a concurring opinion that guilty people could refuse to request DNA testing at trial, then prolong the appeal process (and stave off execution) by requesting DNA testing afterward. To find a right to post-conviction testing in the Constitution's protection of due process, Justice Samuel Alito wrote in his concurrence, "would allow prisoners to play games with the criminal justice system."

That's precisely why the testing should be done before trial. Arguing over which evidence gets tested shouldn't be part of either side's strategy. The prosecution and the defense should begin knowing that all of the evidence has been tested or will be. For old cases like Skinner's, if there's significant doubt about the defendant's guilt that testing could resolve, legislators shouldn't wait for the courts—they should make sure themselves that testing is done. A typical DNA sample costs about $1,000 to analyze, with a usual turn-around time of about 30 days. Innocence Project spokesman Eric Ferrero told me that his organization on average pays about $8,500 per case for DNA testing, since most cases have multiple samples of evidence.

As a criminal defense lawyer, I'd rather have some control. As a citizen, I think he's right.

What got me started on this, though, wasn't Balko's piece at Slate. It was Walter Reaves of Texas and his discussion of what happened in Ohio last week.
It's about Stephen Myers. That's the factually innocent Stephen Myers.
Ten years ago, there was a home invasion in Licking County. Some DNA testing was done, but there was nobody to match it against. Until last year when someone ran the cold case DNA and up popped Myers. Oh, he didn't match the physical description of the guy, and he said he was innocent, but the numbers were good. Only 1 in 1.6 million people would have the same DNA profile. That's not the quadrillions we're used to seeing (though I once had a case with a client - convicted largely on other evidence - where the number came back 1 in 4), but it's still pretty good odds. Enough, certainly, for an indictment.

Trial was scheduled to begin in May, and Myers' lawyer was intending to attack the sampling and testing and numbers. But then something interesting happened.
The prosecutors got the trial delayed because they decided to do more testing. You know, DNA testing is a whole lot more sophisticated now than it was 10 years ago. A whole lot more. And it turns out that Myers is excluded. He cannot - as in not possible - have been the person whose DNA was profiled. 1 in 1.6 million be damned.
It's a fluke, an oddity, that the prosecutors decided to retest. Reaves sees in this story not just a prosecutor who did the right thing, but a lesson for defense lawyers. When your client insists on his innocence, and after you've had a heart-to-heart about what testing might prove still wants it done, you should have it done.
Don't trust the prosecutor to do your homework for you - or, sadly, to give you the good news if she does. Maybe. But maybe not. Regardless, defense counsel have a duty to investigate, not merely to trust that the prosecutor got it right.
But there's another lesson in this, too.

Next time you're on a bus or a plane or a train or in a restaurant or movie theater or anywhere where there are a bunch of people, look around. You never know when your not-twin, the one whose DNA profile is the same as yours, might be in the crowd. Despite the odds of 1 in 6.17 quadrillion. Hell, it might be one of the jurors."


The post can be found at:

http://gamso-forthedefense.blogspot.com/2010/06/beating-odds.html

Harold Levy...hlevy15@gmail.com'

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Scott Greenfield commented on Gamso's post on his own blog: "Simple Justice: A New York Criminal Defence Blog, under the heading, "What Are The Odds?"

"Jeff Gamso tells us: 6.17 quadrillion to 1,"
the post begins.

"He also tells us why they don't mean what they say,"
it continues.


"Despite the numbers crunching, the certainty of experts and the desire for judges and juries to have the hard decisions lifted off their shoulders by the experts who assure them that there is no way, none, that the defendant isn't the bad guy, Jeff also explains why criminal defense lawyers need to go old school and listen to our clients.

What got me started on this, though, wasn't Balko's piece at Slate. It was Walter Reaves of Texas and his discussion of what happened in Ohio last week.

It's about Stephen Myers. That's the factually innocent Stephen Myers.

In Myers' case, prosecutors decided to retest the DNA, even though it had already proven conclusively that Myers was the guy in tests 10 years earlier. The retest turned out differently. Myers suddenly wasn't the guy who committed the home invasion. Up to then, there were only two people who were sure about the outcome, Myers and the guilty person.

It's a fluke, an oddity, that the prosecutors decided to retest. Reaves sees in this story not just a prosecutor who did the right thing, but a lesson for defense lawyers. When your client insists on his innocence, and after you've had a heart-to-heart about what testing might prove still wants it done, you should have it done.

Don't trust the prosecutor to do your homework for you - or, sadly, to give you the good news if she does. Maybe. But maybe not. Regardless, defense counsel have a duty to investigate, not merely to trust that the prosecutor got it right.

After a while, we begin to feel that we're just a cog in the wheel of justice, part of the system that populates courthouses on a daily basis. We feel more aligned with the system than our clients. We see the trends, the norms, the way things usually go, and it can save us a lot of time and effort to just go with it. After all, what are the chances that anything could go wrong?

Whether the chances of a DNA mismatch are 6.17 quadrillion to 1 or less, the protestations of our clients count. Sure, there's a good chance that their demands will sink them, although it's never clear that they can be sunk more than they already are. It's just that we're never an arm of the prosecutor or the court, even if that means we have to turn down the opportunity to be one of the gang at court.

Sure, the odds are against us. Very much so. Chances are that the retest will be a waste of money and just more evidence to nail the lid even tighter on our client. But when the client insists he's not the guy. When the client squeezes your arm and says, "please, you gotta do this," there's no choice in the matter. In all likelihood, the test will reaffirm the defendant's guilt. But what if your client is Stephen Myers? You can't take that chance, no matter how easy it is to do nothing."


The post can be found at:

http://blog.simplejustice.us/2010/06/12/what-are-the-odds.aspx

Harold Levy...hlevy15@gmail.com'