Saturday, March 8, 2025

And Justice For All: (The trial from hell!): This bizarre, twisted, New Mexico case had me thinking about Al Pacino's movie 'And Justice For All' - about a dark, unpredictable criminal justice system inhabited by imperfect human beings, in which everything - and much more - goes wrong. Taos News (Reporter Olivia Lewis) tells the good news that the State Supreme Court has overturned the murder conviction of a woman who the prosecutor had called called a 'witch' - but the bad news i that this happened inn the first place. Business as usual?…In 2022, Desiree Lensegrav was sentenced to 45 years in prison with the possibility of parole for helping to kidnap and murder Ranchos de Taos resident Joseph Morgas in 2019. However, New Mexico’s highest court concluded Lensegrav didn’t receive a fair trial and prohibited a retrial, citing state constitutional protections of double jeopardy. “In this case of severe and pervasive prosecutorial misconduct, exacerbated by a lackluster defense, we hold that an Assistant District Attorney who uses opening statements to expose the jury to incriminating allegations from a non-testifying codefendant, repeatedly accuses a defendant of witchcraft, and relies on inflammatory and inadmissible evidence throughout the case, has knowingly committed misconduct so unfairly prejudicial and with such willful disregard for reversal on appeal that retrial is barred under ... the New Mexico Constitution,” the court wrote in an opinion by Justice Michael E. Vigil."



BACKGROUND:  "Norman Jewison said that he was attracted to the script because it clarified for him the reality that the courtroom is a kind of stage where a drama is played out. He was intrigued by the satirical possibilities of the scenario. He also drew parallels to contemporary politics. "There was a time when the legal profession was inviolate," he said. "Then came Watergate...We're starting to realize that being in the law doesn't mean being above the law. He was careful to delineate the film's genre. "It's difficult at times to pull the audience back. Sometimes they start to go with the film as a melodrama. We were then able to pull them back with something almost absurd, to shock them out of it because I didn't want it to become a message picture."


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QUOTE FROM THE MOVIE: (Wikipedia): "Kirkland's opening statement during the film's climax contains its most famous moment, including the outburst, "You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order!."…….."The "You're out of order!" scene has been parodied many times in popular media, such as in The Simpsons and The Big Bang Theory. It is also echoed in Pacino's speech in the film Scent of a Woman."

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QUOTE OF THE DAY:  (From the New Mexico trial that is the subject of this post): “Bolstered with copious amounts of other inflammatory and inadmissible evidence, including allegations that Defendant was a ‘witch’ and a ‘bruja’ ... who controlled Mr. Montoya through her menstrual blood, ADA Ripol embarked on a three-day-long exercise in pathos and character assassination that utterly deprived Defendant of a fair trial that is guaranteed by the New Mexico Constitution,” the court wrote.

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PASSAGE OF THE DAY: "The court found it “profoundly troubling” that Lensegrav’s defense counsel didn’t object to the majority of instances involving prosecutorial misconduct during the trial. The court also noted the prosecution introduced “foul-smelling physical evidence” from the victim’s remains and the smell led the judge to adjourn the trial early during the second day. Ripol urged the jury in his closing statement to find Lensegrav guilty for the “stench of death that permeated this courtroom,” the opinion says."

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STORY: "New Mexico Supreme Court overturns murder conviction of woman prosecutor called a 'witch,' by Reporter Olivia Lewis, published by The Taos News,  a sister publication of the Sannta Fe New Mexican,   on February 20, 2025.

STORY: "The state Supreme Court overturned a Taos woman’s murder conviction on Thursday citing “outrageous prosecutorial misconduct,” including a prosecutor for the 8th Judicial District Attorney’s Office referring to the defendant as a witch.

In 2022, Desiree Lensegrav was sentenced to 45 years in prison with the possibility of parole for helping to kidnap and murder Ranchos de Taos resident Joseph Morgas in 2019. However, New Mexico’s highest court concluded Lensegrav didn’t receive a fair trial and prohibited a retrial, citing state constitutional protections of double jeopardy.

“In this case of severe and pervasive prosecutorial misconduct, exacerbated by a lackluster defense, we hold that an Assistant District Attorney who uses opening statements to expose the jury to incriminating allegations from a non-testifying codefendant, repeatedly accuses a defendant of witchcraft, and relies on inflammatory and inadmissible evidence throughout the case, has knowingly committed misconduct so unfairly prejudicial and with such willful disregard for reversal on appeal that retrial is barred under ... the New Mexico Constitution,” the court wrote in an opinion by Justice Michael E. Vigil.

Lensegrav was convicted and sentenced for first-degree murder, kidnapping, evidence tampering and conspiracy to commit murder. Lensegrav’s husband, Aram Montoya, pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and kidnapping in 2021. He received a sentence of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

According to court records, Lensegrav and her husband confessed to killing Morgas following a 2020 domestic violence incident in which Montoya stabbed Lensegrav.

“[Lensegrav] was taken to a hospital and later described to police how Montoya killed Morgas during a fight,” according to Thursday’s news release from the state Administrative Office of the Courts. “The victim’s body was taken to another location where it was burned, decapitated and buried. The head was thrown into the Rio Grande. Lensegrav told police that she wanted Montoya to hurt Morgas after he insulted her at a drug house and threatened actions so she would lose custody of her child.”

The prosecution canceled plans to call Montoya as a witness shortly before Lensegrav’s trial in 2022, but the court wrote Assistant District Attorney Cosme Ripol “nevertheless used his opening statement to expose the jury to Mr. Montoya’s incriminating allegations against Defendant.”

“Bolstered with copious amounts of other inflammatory and inadmissible evidence, including allegations that Defendant was a ‘witch’ and a ‘bruja’ ... who controlled Mr. Montoya through her menstrual blood, ADA Ripol embarked on a three-day-long exercise in pathos and character assassination that utterly deprived Defendant of a fair trial that is guaranteed by the New Mexico Constitution,” the court wrote.

The court found it “profoundly troubling” that Lensegrav’s defense counsel didn’t object to the majority of instances involving prosecutorial misconduct during the trial. The court also noted the prosecution introduced “foul-smelling physical evidence” from the victim’s remains and the smell led the judge to adjourn the trial early during the second day. Ripol urged the jury in his closing statement to find Lensegrav guilty for the “stench of death that permeated this courtroom,” the opinion says.

“The entire trial was filled with theatrics, hyperbole and disparaging inflammatory statements, such that the extent of the misconduct cannot be fully conveyed in this opinion,” the Court wrote.

The entire story can be read at: 

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/new-mexico-supreme-court-overturns-murder-conviction-of-woman-prosecutor-called-a-witch/article_eca196cc-f004-11ef-820d-c368a15ac965.html

PUBLISHER'S NOTE:  I am monitoring this case/issue/resource. Keep your eye on the Charles Smith Blog for reports on developments. The Toronto Star, my previous employer for more than twenty incredible years, has put considerable effort into exposing the harm caused by Dr. Charles Smith and his protectors - and into pushing for reform of Ontario's forensic pediatric pathology system. The Star has a "topic"  section which focuses on recent stories related to Dr. Charles Smith. It can be found at: http://www.thestar.com/topic/charlessmith. Information on "The Charles Smith Blog Award"- and its nomination process - can be found at: http://smithforensic.blogspot.com/2011/05/charles-smith-blog-award-nominations.html Please send any comments or information on other cases and issues of interest to the readers of this blog to: hlevy15@gmail.com.  Harold Levy: Publisher: The Charles Smith Blog.

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FINAL WORD:  (Applicable to all of our wrongful conviction cases):  "Whenever there is a wrongful conviction, it exposes errors in our criminal legal system, and we hope that this case — and lessons from it — can prevent future injustices."

Lawyer Radha Natarajan:

Executive Director: New England Innocence Project;


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FINAL, FINAL WORD: "Since its inception, the Innocence Project has pushed the criminal legal system to confront and correct the laws and policies that cause and contribute to wrongful convictions.   They never shied away from the hard cases — the ones involving eyewitness identifications, confessions, and bite marks. Instead, in the course of presenting scientific evidence of innocence, they've exposed the unreliability of evidence that was, for centuries, deemed untouchable." So true!


Christina Swarns: Executive Director: The Innocence Project;

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Friday, March 7, 2025

Robert Mailman and Walter Gillespie: New Brunswick: The Saint John Police Chief says the two men who spent 40 years in prison for a murder they did not commit are victims of police 'tunnel vision; CBC News (Reporter Mia Urquhart) reports, noting that: "Applying today's policing standards, however, is a different story. He said there would "absolutely" be consequences for a police officer who conducted an investigation like the one into Leeman's death. One of the standards that has changed since the early '90s governs disclosure of evidence to the defence. In the Leeman case, an eyewitness was paid by police, and that information was never given to the defence teams. Court documents noted that Saint John police had given a total of $1,800 — in addition to hotel and relocation costs — to a 16-year-old who testified in 1984 that he had witnessed Leeman's murder. The witness, John Loeman Jr., later recanted his story to his own lawyer, to a journalist, in two letters and to a federal Justice Department lawyer looking into Mailman and Gillespie's case in 1998."

PUBLISHER'S NOTE:  Police bribery of 'informants' is not a thing of the past which magically disappeared forty or fifty years ago, which the police Chief seems to want  us to believe. (If only it had)  as Chief   Robert Bruce suggests.This Blog is peppered with  much more recent  cases all over the Globe,  in which police incentivized witnesses in order to get convictions -  often at the expense of an innocent person.  In a previous post of this Blog, I asked,  "What do police informants have to do with forensic science? Investigative  Reporter Pamela Colloff give us  a clue when she writes - at the link below -  "I’ve wanted to write about jailhouse informants for a long time because they often appear in troubled cases in which the other evidence is weak." That's my experience as  well as a criminal lawyer and an observer of criminal justice. Given the reality that jurors - thanks to the CSI effect - are becoming more and more insistent on the need for there to be forensic evidence, it is becoming more and more common for police to rely on shady tactics such as use of police snitches, staging lineups, coercing, inducing, or creating false confessions out of thin air, procuring false eyewitness testimony (uncertified  jailhouse testinomy'   or concealing exculpatory evidence. I am very disappointed by the fact that the police  have only released a summary of the report. Releasing that  mere summary, raises a suspicion  in my mind, that that there is material in that document that  the police do not want us to see - a suspicion that they still have something to hide relating to the  investigation that caused Robert Mailman and Walter Gillespie - two innocent men - decades of their lives. For shame!

Harold Levy:  Publisher: The Charles Smith Blog.

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STORY: "Mailman and Gillespie victims of police 'tunnel vision,' Saint John chief says," by Reporter Mia Urquhart, published by CBC News, New Brunswick, on March 7, 2025.

SUB-HEADING: "Saint John Police Force releases summary of report following year-long review."

PHOTO CAPTION: "Robert Mailman, left, and Walter Gillespie, who died last April, spent 40 years in prison for a murder they didn't commit."


GIST: "Saint John police had "tunnel vision" during their investigation of the 1983 murder of George Leeman, according to a year-long review of the case. 

Once investigators focused on Robert Mailman and Walter Gillespie, they "looked for evidence that would support their case," Chief Robert Bruce said at a news conference on Friday. 

Mailman and Gillespie were convicted of second-degree murder in 1984 and given life sentences. Both were eventually paroled. Gillespie died last April and Mailman, who will turn 77 next Friday, has terminal cancer and was taken to hospital on Thursday.

Ron Dalton, co-president of Innocence Canada, spoke with Mailman on Friday morning before the news conference. 

He said Mailman told him if the Saint John Police Force "would stand up, take responsibility and admit that they made mistakes, and release the full unredacted report, he would be satisfied." 

Dalton noted that "it wasn't a fulsome apology. It was some acknowledgement at least. And I'm hoping that'll be enough to give Mr. Mailman some peace of mind."Robert Mailman and Walter Gillespie, who were convicted of the 1983 murder of George Leeman, always maintained their innocence. Independent report concludes the main shortfall in investigation was ‘tunnel vision’ by police.

He said Mailman is very ill. Doctors told him they wanted him to spend a couple days in hospital. 

"He said no, if he's dying, he's going to go home and die in his own comfort, on his own terms."

Dalton said he doesn't believe there's any reason not to release Farrah's entire report. 

"Until we shine some daylight in some of these dark corners, you don't acknowledge the mistakes and you don't have a chance of fixing them."

From his own perspective, Dalton said he was surprised by the summary of the report. 

"I hate to admit it, but I was pleasantly surprised. My expectation bar was set pretty low. I was expecting more of a whitewash than what I see there now."

\In January 2024, after a court ruled the two men had been victims of a miscarriage of justice, Bruce announced a review of the original police investigation.

On Friday, as he released a summary of that review, Bruce said officers made mistakes and for that he expressed "profound regret" to those involved "that these events unfolded as they did."

Investigator Allen Farrah, a retired RCMP officer, said in the summary, "The failure of this investigation is largely attributed to police tunnel vision." 

Detectives "relied heavily on a witness whose cooperation and statements were inconsistent and lacked corroboration," Farrah said. 

"Today, such outcomes are less likely due to significant changes in Law, rigorous policies governing law enforcement practices, increased checks and balances, and the arm's-length relationship between police and the Crown." 

Bruce said many of the shortcomings of the original police investigation can be blamed on "historical factors no longer present in modern-day policing practices," and there was no "malicious intent to railroad people" on the part of the officers. 

"They followed a line that they were following. Was it the best? No. Did they make mistakes? Yes. But there was no ill intent. So there would be no criminality to that," Bruce said.

Applying today's policing standards, however, is a different story. He said there would "absolutely" be consequences for a police officer who conducted an investigation like the one into Leeman's death.  One of the standards that has changed since the early '90s governs disclosure of evidence to the defence. 

In the Leeman case, an eyewitness was paid by police, and that information was never given to the defence teams. 

Court documents noted that Saint John police had given a total of $1,800 — in addition to hotel and relocation costs — to a 16-year-old who testified in 1984 that he had witnessed Leeman's murder.

The witness, John Loeman Jr., later recanted his story to his own lawyer, to a journalist, in two letters and to a federal Justice Department lawyer looking into Mailman and Gillespie's case in 1998.

Case closed 

As far as the original murder investigation goes, Bruce said that case is closed. They're not still looking for a killer. 

He said one person pleaded guilty to manslaughter in 1984. 

"We're not opening that case up," said Bruce. "We feel it's complete.

Janet Shatford pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter in exchange for her testimony against Mailman and Gillespie.

Bruce said the eyewitness "provided information that brought those three people to our attention. Miss Shatford, Mr. Gillespie and Mr. Mailman. Before that, they weren't even considered suspects.”

Bruce said the whole case was based on "an independent witness whose story was inconsistent and we couldn't get the collaborating evidence."

With modern-day policing standards, Bruce said that would never happen.

"It's very rare that one single eyewitness would carry the weight that it did back in those days."

The entire story can be read at:

mailman-gillespie-police-review-1.7477800


PUBLISHER'S NOTE:  I am monitoring this case/issue/resource. Keep your eye on the Charles Smith Blog for reports on developments. The Toronto Star, my previous employer for more than twenty incredible years, has put considerable effort into exposing the harm caused by Dr. Charles Smith and his protectors - and into pushing for reform of Ontario's forensic pediatric pathology system. The Star has a "topic"  section which focuses on recent stories related to Dr. Charles Smith. It can be found at: http://www.thestar.com/topic/charlessmith. Information on "The Charles Smith Blog Award"- and its nomination process - can be found at: http://smithforensic.blogspot.com/2011/05/charles-smith-blog-award-nominations.html Please send any comments or information on other cases and issues of interest to the readers of this blog to: hlevy15@gmail.com.  Harold Levy: Publisher: The Charles Smith Blog.

SEE BREAKDOWN OF  SOME OF THE ON-GOING INTERNATIONAL CASES (OUTSIDE OF THE CONTINENTAL USA) THAT I AM FOLLOWING ON THIS BLOG,  AT THE LINK BELOW:  HL:


https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/120008354894645705/4704913685758792985


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FINAL WORD:  (Applicable to all of our wrongful conviction cases):  "Whenever there is a wrongful conviction, it exposes errors in our criminal legal system, and we hope that this case — and lessons from it — can prevent future injustices."

Lawyer Radha Natarajan:

Executive Director: New England Innocence Project;


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FINAL, FINAL WORD: "Since its inception, the Innocence Project has pushed the criminal legal system to confront and correct the laws and policies that cause and contribute to wrongful convictions.   They never shied away from the hard cases — the ones involving eyewitness identifications, confessions, and bite marks. Instead, in the course of presenting scientific evidence of innocence, they've exposed the unreliability of evidence that was, for centuries, deemed untouchable." So true!


Christina Swarns: Executive Director: The Innocence Project;

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Adnan Syed: Baltimore: Major (Welcome but bitter-sweet) Development: The BBC (Digital Journalist) Ali Abbas Ahmadi) reports a judge's ruling that he will not serve more jail time after being resentenced in the murder of his ex-girlfriend, noting that: "Syed was cleared of all charges in 2022 after prosecutors said he had been wrongfully convicted. But his conviction was reinstated a year later in 2023 after an appeals court found that the lower court had failed to give the victim's brother sufficient notice of the hearing that freed Syed.


PUBLISHER'S NOTE: Yes, this is a welcome development In Baltimore's criminal justice system this could have been much, much  worse. Let's call it 'bitter sweet'. Adan Syed should not have been convicted,  sentenced  for murder in the first place put through this horrible ordeal, and had years of his life taken away - and would not have been convicted if it were not for the outrageous  hiding of crucial  evidence of his innocence by the state.


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PASSAGE OF THE DAY: From transcript of  2022 PBS interview with Adnan Syed's lawyer after the murder charges had been vacated: "

  • (Lawyer ) Erica Suter: "It's absolutely critical. The prosecution has an obligation to turn over Brady evidence. So, Brady evidence is evidence that could be exculpatory, meaning evidence you didn't do it, or it could be mitigating — impeaching, meaning evidence that could challenge another witness' testimony. And it's important because we should have a fair system, a just system. And when the state is hiding evidence that you should be able to use to defend yourself, the result is what we have in Adnan's case, where somebody could spend years or decades in prison for a crime they did not commit.
  • Lisa Desjardins: (PBS)
    And this was evidence that none of his previous lawyers knew about; is that right? How did — when did you first learn about this?
  • Erica Suter: Well, the state and I in this case were working collaboratively in this investigation. And the assistant state's attorney, Becky Feldman, reviewed the state's file. There were numerous boxes, and she turned over this information to the defense, as she should. And it was during that time that we came across these documents.
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STORY: "Adnan Syed will not serve more jail time in Serial podcast murder case, by BBC Digital Journalist Reporter Ali Abbas Hamadi, on March 7, 2025.



SUB-HEADING: "Adnan Syed spent 20 years in jail after being convicted of murdering his ex-girlfriend."


 GIST: "Adnan Syed, whose criminal conviction was made famous in the hit true-crime podcast Serial, will not have to serve any additional jail time after being resentenced in the murder of his ex-girlfriend. 


A Baltimore judge ruled that Syed "is not a danger to the public", according to the BBC's US partner CBS News, and that "the interests of justice will be served better by a reduced sentence".


Syed was convicted in the 1999 murder of his ex-girlfriend Hae Min Lee and sentenced to life in prison. 


His case spawned the Serial podcast, which questioned key evidence in the case and helped lead to his resentencing. 


SYED'S CONVICTION IN THE MURDER CASE STILL STANDS. HIS RESENTENCING WAS POSSIBLE UNDER A LAW THAT ALLOWS FOR SENTENCE REDUCTIONS FOR PEOPLE CONVICTED AS MINORS AND HAVE SPENT MORE THAN 20 YEARS IN PRISON.

 

Baltimore City Circuit Judge Jennifer Schiffer made the ruling in court on Tuesday. 


Syed and Min Lee were classmates in high school in Maryland when Lee disappeared in January 1999. Her body was found in a forest three weeks later.


Syed, then 17, was found guilty of first degree murder in February 2000, and sentenced to life in prison. Prosecutors at the time alleged Syed carried out the crime after becoming jealous of Lee's new relationship after the two broke up.


In 2014, Syed's case gained national attention through the true-crime podcast 'Serial', which was listened to by millions of people. 


The podcast raised questions about the evidence provided by prosecutors and witnesses that appeared at his trial, and it explored the effectiveness of Syed's attorney.


Fans of the podcast have donated more than $80,000 to Syed's legal fund, according to CBS News.


Syed was cleared of all charges in 2022 after prosecutors said he had been wrongfully convicted.


But his conviction was reinstated a year later in 2023 after an appeals court found that the lower court had failed to give the victim's brother sufficient notice of the hearing that freed Syed.


Judge Schiffer's ruling on Tuesday allows for Syed to remain free. Now 43, he has been out of prison since 2022."


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgz48ydxm9o

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INTERVIEW: PBS News Hour: "Adnan Syed's attorney talks about his release, what it says about criminal justice system, published on September 20, 2022. Read the full transcript:


PREFACE: "After 23 years in prison, Adnan Syed was released Monday with a cheering crowd of supporters to greet him. A judge vacated his sentence after the state’s attorney for Baltimore said the original prosecutors did not turn over evidence that could have helped Syed, including information on other possible suspects. Syed's attorney Erica Suter joined Lisa Desjardins to discuss the case.


TRANSCRIPT:

  • Judy Woodruff:
    A judge in Baltimore has overturned the murder conviction of Adnan Syed, who was convicted in the 1999 murder of his high school classmate Hae Min Lee. It's a case that has received national attention in recent years after Syed's story was chronicle by the popular true crime podcast "Serial."
    Lisa Desjardins has more.
  • Lisa Desjardins:
    Judy, after 23 years in prison, Adnan Syed was released yesterday with a cheering crowd of supporters to greet him. A judge vacated his sentence after prosecutors said last week that his conviction should not stand. The state's attorney for Baltimore says the original prosecutors did not turn over evidence that could have helped Syed. That includes problems with past evidence about Syed's location and information on other possible suspects.
  • Marilyn Mosby, Baltimore State’s Attorney: Through our review, our reinvestigation revealed that the original prosecutors and the subsequent prosecutors in the attorney general's office failed to disclose relevant information about alternative suspects, one of whom threatened to kill the victim and had motive to kill the victim, and both of whom had a pattern of violence against women.
  • Lisa Desjardins: She and other prosecutors now have a month to decide if they will retry Syed. I'm joined now by his attorney, Erica Suter. She also serves as the director of the Innocence Project Clinic at the University of Baltimore School of Law. Erica, this is quite a sudden turn in this nationally known case. But questions about this case have been raised for years. Why do you think it took so long to get here?
  • Erica Suter, Attorney For Adnan Syed: I think — well, first, thank you so much for having me. Anybody who works in the innocence space and for many criminal defense attorneys, reversing a wrongful conviction can take years, sometimes decades. And so, for the public, though it seems like this is unusual that a case would take that long, it's actually sort of consistent with our experience in these kinds of cases.
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  • Lisa Desjardins: One of the issues here are so-called Brady violations, when prosecutors don't tell the defense about evidence, in this case, about two other potential suspects and information they had about them.
    How critical is that information here and generally?
  • Erica Suter: It's absolutely critical. The prosecution has an obligation to turn over Brady evidence. So, Brady evidence is evidence that could be exculpatory, meaning evidence you didn't do it, or it could be mitigating — impeaching, meaning evidence that could challenge another witness' testimony. And it's important because we should have a fair system, a just system. And when the state is hiding evidence that you should be able to use to defend yourself, the result is what we have in Adnan's case, where somebody could spend years or decades in prison for a crime they did not commit.
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  • Lisa Desjardins:
    And this was evidence that none of his previous lawyers knew about; is that right? How did — when did you first learn about this?
  • Erica Suter:
    Well, the state and I in this case were working collaboratively in this investigation. And the assistant state's attorney, Becky Feldman, reviewed the state's file. There were numerous boxes, and she turned over this information to the defense, as she should. And it was during that time that we came across these documents.
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  • Lisa Desjardins:
    For the family of the victim, Hae Min Lee, of course, this has been a nightmare as well. Here's their attorney speaking yesterday and saying that prosecutors really didn't give them any warning this was coming. Steven Kelly, Attorney for Hae Min Lee's Family: They absolutely did not want to afford this victim any meaningful opportunity to address this motion. My clients, all they wanted was information. They want the truth to come out. If the truth is that someone else killed their sister, daughter, they want to know that more than anybody.

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  • Lisa Desjardins: Also, Maryland's attorney general, who previously worked on this case, said that no one called him or other prosecutors who've worked on it before. And my question to you is, what do you think of this criticism, both from the victim's family and from other former prosecutors, that the state's attorney's office didn't reach out, really didn't talk to them about why they did what they did?
  • Erica Suter:
    Well, of course, I could say, on behalf of my client, and, of course, just as a human being, we have enormous sympathy and compassion for what the victim's family is going through. And, as far as what the state did or shouldn't do, our system is set up as an adversarial system, and there are obligations of the state and there are obligations of the defense, and there are rules and regulations about sort of what our different roles are. And so we, in terms of being able to have contact with the victims, in terms of being — of giving notice to other prosecutors offices, those all fall within sort of what the state's duties and obligations are. And so, that, I would just sort of defer to the state.
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  • Lisa Desjardins: This is your client, but this is also your field of expertise.
    You mentioned Brady violations. How rare is this kind of change and how rare are those violations?
  • Erica Suter: So, they're actually not rare at all. In 44 percent of exonerations throughout the nation, 44 percent are the result of the state withholding evidence of innocence. So, nearly half of all exonerations throughout the country that are in our registry of exonerations involve somebody — involve the state keeping evidence of innocence from the defendant. And in Baltimore, in particular, 80 percent of exonerations on record involve withheld evidence. So it is extraordinarily common. And it shows how sort of important it is that the state follow their obligations, because, when they don't, you have cases like Adnan Syed's.
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  • Lisa Desjardins: How's your client doing today? He has not been declared innocent yet, I should say. How are you both doing and what happens now?
  • Erica Suter: So, Adnan Syed has been incarcerated since he was 17 years old. When you think about 23 years of life and how much of a different position we're all in then from 23 years ago, just imagine that he is processing that sort of minute by minute. He is extraordinarily grateful to all of his supporters, all the people who believed in him. He's very happy. But this is a lot to process. And so he's doing well, but he's really just kind of taking it step by step.
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  • Lisa Desjardins:
    Are you concerned that he could be retried?
  • Erica Suter:
    I think, in the moment, this was a long-fought battle, a long time coming. And so we're really focused on the joy of this occasion. And what the state decides in the future to do is a decision for another day, but whatever they decide to do, we will be prepared.
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  • Lisa Desjardins: Erica Suter, a momentous day for you and your client.
    Thank you for joining us.
  • Erica Suter: Thank you so much.
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  • The entire transcript of the interview can be read at:

PUBLISHER'S NOTE:  I am monitoring this case/issue/resource. Keep your eye on the Charles Smith Blog for reports on developments. The Toronto Star, my previous employer for more than twenty incredible years, has put considerable effort into exposing the harm caused by Dr. Charles Smith and his protectors - and into pushing for reform of Ontario's forensic pediatric pathology system. The Star has a "topic"  section which focuses on recent stories related to Dr. Charles Smith. It can be found at: http://www.thestar.com/topic/charlessmith. Information on "The Charles Smith Blog Award"- and its nomination process - can be found at: http://smithforensic.blogspot.com/2011/05/charles-smith-blog-award-nominations.html Please send any comments or information on other cases and issues of interest to the readers of this blog to: hlevy15@gmail.com.  Harold Levy: Publisher: The Charles Smith Blog.

SEE BREAKDOWN OF  SOME OF THE ON-GOING INTERNATIONAL CASES (OUTSIDE OF THE CONTINENTAL USA) THAT I AM FOLLOWING ON THIS BLOG,  AT THE LINK BELOW:  HL:


https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/120008354894645705/4704913685758792985


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FINAL WORD:  (Applicable to all of our wrongful conviction cases):  "Whenever there is a wrongful conviction, it exposes errors in our criminal legal system, and we hope that this case — and lessons from it — can prevent future injustices."

Lawyer Radha Natarajan:

Executive Director: New England Innocence Project;


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FINAL, FINAL WORD: "Since its inception, the Innocence Project has pushed the criminal legal system to confront and correct the laws and policies that cause and contribute to wrongful convictions.   They never shied away from the hard cases — the ones involving eyewitness identifications, confessions, and bite marks. Instead, in the course of presenting scientific evidence of innocence, they've exposed the unreliability of evidence that was, for centuries, deemed untouchable." So true!


Christina Swarns: Executive Director: The Innocence Project;

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